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Dust in the Wind

Postby Windborne » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:35 am

In the Alternative Perspective thread,
Kira wrote:To prevent further misunderstanding between us, could you please tell us a little bit about your background?

While this is not pleasant for me, I thought I'd see if I could somehow dispel the notion that I've got some secret sinister agenda.

I'm not religious. I know virtually nothing of my family history and care even less, if that's possible. I'm the only son of a WWII veteran whose family was sufficiently dysfunctional that he never spoke of it. He's always been something of a hero to me, but he disapproves of my non-religiousness (is that a word?) and last spring informed me that I've been disinherited in favor of his religion-of-choice.

My only son is 26 years-old, married with 4 children - my grandchildren. Encouraged by my daughter-in-law's family, and against my advice and wishes, a couple of weeks ago he was baptized into a religion (different from my dad's) I won't name here. Fortunately his new-found religion allows me to set the rules in my own house, and in beit ha'Windborne forum rule #3 is in effect.

You can imagine what the last year has done for me. But without family or religion, I still desire God's heart. Which is why Torah caught my interest. Not the commands and commentary, but the imagery and the people. In the story of Torah, people with very little in the way of formal religion walked with G-d, were considered tamim by G-d, negotiated with Him, spoke to Him as a man speaks to his friend. And into the TANACH, I read about people like Ruth and David, Job and Jonah - great hearts in an epic drama.

Composing this post in my head today has been annoying - not one of my better days in a bad year that will mercifully be over soon. I thought I had something fresh to offer, but I was mistaken.

Never mind.

Henny Youngman wrote:I once wanted to become an atheist, but I gave up - they have no holidays.
Soul-challenged.
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Re: Dust in the Wind

Postby rivka » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:51 am

Thank you. That explains a lot about why you reacted as you did. Sounds like the religious views of those around you have been extremely stressful -- something I think some of our other members can relate to.
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Re: Dust in the Wind

Postby just-me » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:48 am

Thank you Windbourne. It's good to know some of people's backgrounds and understand them a bit better.

Kira, can we have a welcome thread where people can introduce themselves? I just thought I also don't know much about you guys. It would be interesting to know, for example, how people grew up and what lead them to become religious etc. if that is not too personal. Or am I too curious?

As for me... in short ...
My family is not religious. But I always was trying to find "a sense in life". So as a teenager, I came in contact with evangelical Christians. Around me were only non-religious people so they were the only ones (apart from Jeh. Witnesses) that seemed to actually live for something bigger than just to arrange a pleasant lifestyle. It became my passion. But something always didn't fit in with me. Everyday life*. How do you live for G-d in everyday life when you're not a pastor? How can you make room for G-d in everyday things? And I think that is what I find the most fascinating thing about Judaism.

* well that and that I could hardly ask my inconvenient questions about theology.
for, he reasons pointedly,
that which must not, can not be.

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Re: Dust in the Wind

Postby Kira » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:29 pm

Feel free to start one, just-me. Make it a sticky.

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Re: Dust in the Wind

Postby just-me » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:07 pm

How can I make it sticky?
for, he reasons pointedly,
that which must not, can not be.

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Re: Dust in the Wind

Postby rivka » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:05 pm

Actually, I think only moderators can sticky a post/thread.
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Re: Dust in the Wind

Postby Sander » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:02 am

In the story of Torah, people with very little in the way of formal religion walked with G-d, were considered tamim by G-d, negotiated with Him, spoke to Him as a man speaks to his friend


G-d spoke to Cain, Hagar, Laban, Bilaam, and they were not tamim. He sent angels to save Lot, and Lot was not on a high level (previous address: Sodom; known to fall into a drunken stupor, resulting in incest).

On the other hand, Jacob was on a very high level. G-d hid from Jacob for 22 years, letting Jacob suffer with sorrow for the loss of Joseph.
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